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15th June 2012, 08:27 PM	? #1
Professional ? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pune Posts: 2,113	I would like to know why ABS is important in SUV's ? What if we don't have it ? It is really necessary ? I see many Sumo's , Boleros running for years without ABS, then why should it is must for Safari or Scorpio? @Mods pls merge thread if there is any. Last edited by Surfer; 15th June 2012 at 08:27 PM. Reason: typo
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15th June 2012, 09:42 PM	? #3
Professional ? Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 3,471	Quote: I would like to know why ABS is important in SUV's ? What if we don't have it ? It is really necessary ? I see many Sumo's , Boleros running for years without ABS, then why should it is must for Safari or Scorpio? @Mods pls merge thread if there is any. Surfer its very treacherous for a vehicle of this magnitude to topple, or sudden steering inputs may overturn the vehicle. However ABS helps to over come such instances, and this effect can be felt especially in rains. But with with ABS you have steering capability, which not only helps in reducing the speed, as well as control the vehicle. And especially with such heavy weight of 2 tonnes and above, it is an added advantage, while doing triple digit speeds. Imagine suddenly a hump appears on a highway, with ABS car stops on time, before the hump. At the same time a car without ABS behaves like a rolling stone. @Billion$kid: Just noticed your post, Can you clarify which Scorpio are you speaking about??? Because i have one, and i never felt brakes are poor, as you have described. Last edited by mukeshus; 15th June 2012 at 09:51 PM.
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16th June 2012, 12:41 AM	? #7
Amateur ? Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ooty Posts: 42	Surfer, very often comments can be confusing and misleading. Maybe things should be a little more clear. On a dry tarmac road ABS has little effect on braking distance. The difference in braking distance when compared to a non-ABS system wont be as big as many people think. In some cases, there wont be any difference either. But it gives you the big advantage of steering the car while braking since the wheels will not get locked ie.completely stopped. On a wet surface, the possibility of skidding under sudden braking is very high. Since the road is slippery, the vehicle will continue to skid increasing the braking distance. In such conditions, a car equipped with ABS enables the driver to steer the car away from the object/stay in control and also the braking distance will be be shorter since the wheels don't lock up. Other technologies like brake assist are there to decrease the braking distance. They are very useful irrespective of the conditions. Google it and you can read about that also. What the ABS does primarily is that it allows the driver to stay in control of the vehicle even under sudden braking by continuously pumping the brakes if it senses a wheel lock. On wet surfaces this reduces the braking distance also. There are several well written articles by experts on these technologies. It's better to read those. That's what I told you to do and that's what I want you to do. ABS is very useful for the SUVs too since they're very heavy. While braking at high speeds, chances of skidding are very high and ABS is very helpful in such situations. It can be very scary when the car starts to skid but with ABS you feel confident since the car is still controlled by you. Driving without ABS Under normal driving conditions, if you drive carefully without doing seriously high speeds you probably can live without ABS. On wet surface, pumping the brakes should help you avoid skidding to a certain extent (you need practice of course). It's better to drive slowly when the road is wet and it's raining (even cars equipped with ABS). That said, there's no alternative to ABS. It's always good to have that in your vehicle. ABS is a life saver. It's not a license for someone to drive like mad. If ABS kicks in while braking, what you need to realise is that you are driving a bit too quickly and it's time to slow down.
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16th June 2012, 11:24 AM	? #8
Professional ? Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,346	SUVs do need ABS as they are heavy and carry a lot of inertia with it. Under emergency braking, it is more difficult to stop a 2 ton SUV when compared to a 1.5 ton sedan. I will never advise anyone to buy an SUV (even MUVs like Innova and Xylo) without ABS. For that matter, every car whether sedan, hatchback or SUV should have ABS. Quote: Know many Scorpio owners who are not so happy with the brakes. Maybe it's no longer an issue with the new editions but it definitely was an issue. You are right. The older Scorpios used to have poor braking but not so with the new ones.
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16th June 2012, 12:33 PM	? #10
Professional ? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Your heart Posts: 2,095	How much ABS is important? the hell,this is not at all a no-nonsense question. Being true,with an experienced and good driver(definitely not like me) ABS does not matter that much.I have seen drivers controlling even the most cumbersome SUV in the segment called 'Safari' without ABS too. But for the drivers who just drive mindlessly(ones like me)definitely need ABS,it gives us that fraction of a second which decides between life and death. Hence,overall ABS is a must not only for SUVs,but for every car. SUVs carry a lot of momentum.As already said by Superbad,the brakes are FINE,not good or much confident,so they need ABS,because sensible drivers are very tough to find and then anyone can go out of senses anytime.
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16th June 2012, 02:28 PM	? #11
Amateur ? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Delhi Posts: 77	I found brakes in my Scorpio to be wonderful and have never experienced this responsiveness in any of the cars/UV I've driven barring the SX4.
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16th June 2012, 02:58 PM	? #12
Professional ? Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pune Posts: 2,113	Even I know the importance of ABS, but all manufactures charge premium for this and hence the car cost increases a lot. The areas like himachal, kashmir , north east region where roads are wet many times, but you can see so many cars running good without ABS. So if someone is having a SUV without ABS (due to budget constraints) then what are the driving tips? See most of the rental SUV's are non ABS and many of their drivers drive well. Why the Indian government does not make ABS and airbags compulsory on all cars ? these are life saving features, in other countries its a must then why not in India?
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